"It's evil to allow suffering when it can be prevented. It's plain ol' evil."
Why is it evil? Maybe we are just unimportant in the grand scheme of things..
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Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?
by defender of truth ina poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .
"imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.
apathy allows it.
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Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?
by defender of truth ina poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .
"imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.
apathy allows it.
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We are talking about any concept of God, not just Jehovah of the bible. If a God exists, and it is indifferent to our suffering, is it really evil?
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Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?
by defender of truth ina poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .
"imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.
apathy allows it.
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Tigersuit said: "if you have the ability to stop suffering and mayhem and dont do it, youre evil."
Would you stop at every anthill in the world and give them food, if you were able? Or, if you're honest, would you not bother/ do something more interesting?
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Atheists and JWs are on the same footing!
by exWTslave inatheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.
jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.
interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.
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defender of truth
Could we take this discussion to a new topic?
Just a suggestion.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/282601/1/Is-God-evil-just-because-he-fails-to-prevent-suffering -
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Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?
by defender of truth ina poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .
"imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.
apathy allows it.
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A poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. It is about God:
"IMO I would say [God is] not evil but just indifferent. For me evilness is more classified with intentional acts to harm deliberately out of vengence, anger, malice and even pleasure. To me that is what evil stands for. Indifference is something comepletely different in my view."
It has been said that a God with the power to prevent unnecessary suffering and death, such as the deaths caused by natural disasters or cancer, and yet refuses to do so is evil. What do you think?
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Here are some quotes I found on apathy:
"Apathy and evil. The two work hand in hand. They are the same, really. Evil wills it. Apathy allows it. Evil hates the innocent and
the defenseless most of all. Apathy doesn't care as long as it's not personally inconvenienced."
Jake Thoene
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"I have a very strong feeling that the opposite of love
is not hate - it's apathy. It's not giving a damn."
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Atheists and JWs are on the same footing!
by exWTslave inatheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.
jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.
interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.
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ExwtSlave said:
"This is how I went about:
1. Relax your body...etc
7. In this silence, you are in the same frequency as your creator, ask for a link and see for yourself what happens!
After this come back to this thread, and share your experience."
Ok, I did just as you said.
I asked Him for a link, He gave me this one and then told me to leave Him alone..
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/god11.htm
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The conclusion at the end of the article, for anyone that can't be bothered reading it all:
"The fact that God answers no prayers has meaning to you on a very personal level. Let me give you an example of what it means.
Let's say that you have a friend who is 35 years old, and she finds out that she has breast cancer. Obviously she is devastated. The cancer is fairly advanced, and the prognosis does not look immediately promising.
If you are a believer, what is the first thing to do? The first order of business is prayer. Then the advanced believer would create a prayer circle to channel the "Lord's healing power" to your friend.
As you now know, both the prayers and the prayer circle are pointless. God never answers prayers. If prayer circles worked, then we would be able to regenerate the legs of amputees, and we know that we can't. If prayer circles worked, we would not need doctors or hospitals. If prayer circles worked, we would pray that God completely eliminate breast cancer, and no one on the planet would ever get this disease. The effort spent praying is a waste of time.
So what should you do instead of praying? Think about this question: What might actually help your friend? Do not waste the time praying -- spend your time wisely doing something that will actually help your friend. For example:
*Make her family a nice dinner and deliver it to her home.
*Offer to take care of her kids for several days while she recovers from her last round of chemo.
*Make get-well cards to cheer her up.
*Organize a bake sale or telethon to raise money for breast cancer research.
*Go sit by her bedside in the hospital each day and read to her.
*Bring happy movies for her to watch in the hospital.
Etc.
God does not answer prayers -- the evidence is all around you. Now that you know that for certain, make the most of this knowledge." -
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Atheists and JWs are on the same footing!
by exWTslave inatheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.
jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.
interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.
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((ExWTSlave, the questions in my posts 439 and 440 were for you. Please respond, when you get chance to.))
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Loneliness can have crippling effects , and the Watchtower knows how to use it..
by defender of truth in"we are, as a rule, considerably diminished when disengaged from others.
isolation may very often be the sum total of wretchedness, as the writer thomas carlyle put it.".
"though note what he had to say about the two years he spent in isolation: its an awful thing, solitary.
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Sorry to hear that Data-Dog. Do you feel more lonely at the meetings?
Does posting here ease the feeling at all?
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Everyone else, good points. The Governing Body clearly want people to feel lonely, isolated from family and friends when they are disfellowshipped, so that they will return..
Further, they insist that even the persons close family must leave them alone in that dangerous state of mind, as shown in the quote from the OP. -
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Loneliness can have crippling effects , and the Watchtower knows how to use it..
by defender of truth in"we are, as a rule, considerably diminished when disengaged from others.
isolation may very often be the sum total of wretchedness, as the writer thomas carlyle put it.".
"though note what he had to say about the two years he spent in isolation: its an awful thing, solitary.
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Some reasons you might feel lonely or isolated
"*Losing a loved one or friend
*Lack of close family ties
*Fear of rejection from others or feelings of being “different” or stigmatised by society
*..reduced connection with your culture of origin"
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How does loneliness and isolation affect your mental health?
"Everyone feels lonely from time to time, but long periods of loneliness or social isolation can have a negative impact on your physical, mental and social health. Some signs include:
*Physical symptoms– aches and pains, headaches, illness or worsening of medical conditions
*Mental health conditions– increased risk of depression, anxiety, paranoia or panic attacks
*Low energy– tiredness or lack of motivation
*Sleep problems– difficulty getting to sleep, waking frequently or sleeping too much
*Diet problems– loss of appetite, sudden weight gain or loss
*Substance use– Increased consumption of alcohol, smoking, medications, drugs
*Negative feelings– feelings of worthlessness, hopelessness or thoughts about suicide"
https://www.lifeline.org.au/Get-Help/Facts---Information/Loneliness/Loneliness-and-Isolation -
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Atheists and JWs are on the same footing!
by exWTslave inatheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.
jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.
interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.
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ExWTslave said: "Same principle applies toTHE NATURAL CALAMITIES too. If people are loving, nature too will be loving."
So if we act lovingly toward each other, natural disasters won't happen?